TECHNICAL
As time goes by we will all have to think about getting a
Certificate Of Description and an Historic Log Book from
C.A.M.S. While the cost of this is $600.00 it will add double that
if not more to the value of your car and ensure your car
continues to have a place in the History of Australian Motor
Sport.
You can download a copy of the application Form below.
For more information go to the CAMS Historic web site.
This link will show you what is required by CAMS to achieve a
successful C of D application. They made a point that this was
a very well presented submission.
Note the photographs, as this is what ends up in your
documentation once approved.
HFVAA Panel of Experts
We now have a Panel of Experts in all things Formula Vee.
These knowledgeable gentlemen will help us get our cars up to scratch and all correct for C of D
applications.
The gentlemen are:
Chris Lewis (NSW), Keith Poole (SA),,Phil Lewis (NSW), Frank Klienig (NSW), Paul Corcoran
(NSW), John Dean (VIC), David Cutts (NSW), Colin Merz (ACT) Greg Hepburn (NSW) and more to
be confirmed in Qld and Vic.

Use the email form on our contacts page and your questions will be forwarded to the 'Panel' for
comment.

                                                   Historic Engine Rules and Seals

The rules for sealing of engines both Va or Vb cars are available in this website. Formula Vee
has always been a sealed category and being in an historic category dedicated to the
preservation and restoration of cars of a by gone era, these principles still remain. The main
points to look for in a true historic engine are.
 
(a)  The crankshaft has balancing marks only and not lightened in anyway.
(b)  One end of one conrod must be untouched when balancing.
(c)  One piston must remain untouched when balancing and only removal of metal from inside   
of the piston and not from the edge of the skirt to change the profile of the piston.
(d)  The combustion chambers must be 43cc
(e) The rockers are to be 1200 rockers NOT 1600 rockers. The 1600 rockers are identified by
two stripes on the sides of the rockers, the 1200 don't. Also standard push rods (maximum
length 272.5mm) are used as per the rules previous to 1985.
In addition to seals on the engine case and heads, the rockers must be sealed on as in the
past.
(f)  Standard Volkswagen 1200 manifold is used.

An historic engine needs to have coloured tags fitted under the seals to show that they have
been sealed to the correct specifications and can be easily checked by the scrutineers.
It is also advisable to have a copy of the sealing sheet with you at race meetings.

Remember the more information on your vehicle you can supply to the eligibility committee the
easier your application can proceed.     
              i.e.       - log books
                          - Photos and documentation.
                          - Photos of car from it’s racing background if possible
                          - Old racing programs if possible
                          - Any information from previous owners if possible.
We will help our members in any way we can with gathering information and putting the
documentation together so please contact anyone on the committee for help.
                           

                                                      Phil Lewis
                                                      HFVAA Technical director

                                   Historic Engine Sealers
We now have two historic engine sealers in Queensland with Brett Curtis and John Alder, two
very respected guys that can help with technical advice and specs with regard to Historic
Formula Vee. Brett has agreed to be the Queensland Technical director for Historic Formula Vee
and with his experience going all the way back to the historic VB era his knowledge is of great
value.
                                                           
Their contact details are:  
                                                                                QLD
                                      Brett Curtis                                            John Alder
                                    96 Baanya st                                         10 McGrath st
                                       Wurtulla                                             Waterford west
                                      Qld 4575                                                  Qld    4133
                                Ph:07 5493 5214                                  Ph: 07 3841 7005
                     explicit1@bigpond.com                    johnbeeb@optusnet.com.au

                                                                               NSW
                                    David Cutts                                          Kevin Humphreys
                               Ph: (02) 9627-2810                                       Wyong. NSW
                            Mob: 0422 635 339                                      Mob: 0409454591
                            info@jacer.com.au

                  
                                                                                 VIC
                           Graham Gerbert                                                  John Dean
                      14 Hornbuckle Cres.                             Factory 10, 5 Edelmaier Street
                          Melton Vic 3337                                              Bayswater, VIC       
                        Ph: 03 9743 5673                                          Mob: 0402 031 141
                  gerbert@bigpond.com       
        
                                                              ACT                      
                           Colin Merz
                      Wanniassa. ACT
                         0412316275
WE  ARE NOW  A                        AFFILIATED ASSOCIATION
                                  Engine Seals for Historic Vees

All Historic Vees are now required to have additional engine sealing tags applied and be sealed
by HFVAA approved historic sealers. The names of the sealers for NSW, Qld, Victoria and the
ACT are on the Technical page along with an explanation of the requirements.
Sealers in other states will be announced in the near future.

This is a CAMS Historic Commission approved directive and is applicable to all Group V cars.
                                        Below is the excerpt from the HCC minutes.                    

HC1258 HISTORIC FORMULA VEE ENGINE SEALS

Bryan Miller tabled a submission for the consideration of the Commission in relation to the
sealing of Formula Vee engines.
The Commission noted the proposed listing of engine sealers and also gave their support for the
self-regulation of Group V by the HFVAA.
ACTION: Executive Officer to make the necessary amendments to the CAMS Manual and publish
the listing on the CAMS website.

             Go to our Forms & Rules Page for the CAMS rules for both classes.